Dillinger Escape Plan Frontman Talks About Everything

Greg Puciato

I fucking mean it. Dillinger Escape Plan vocalist Greg Puciato did an interview with that worthless fucking rag Revolver, and he gave them everything.

He talked the new DEP disc, he talked side projects, he talked molecular fusion. Dude really left no stone unturned. I wonder if this interview took five hours to complete?

One side project he discussed is called The Black Queen, and I can’t wait to hear it.

When it comes to the new Dillinger shit, Greg said, “I hate to always be the person that’s like, ‘This is our best new album,”’ because I think every time it’s the best one. I’m realizing that all you can try to do is take an honest snapshot of where everyone is at the moment and hope that that place happens to be good when you look back at it. When you’re in it, you’re too emotionally attached to it to really gain any kind of hindsight to it.

“Now that we’ve been around for a while, I can kind of be a little bit more objective and see what records were the ones where we made big leaps — the obvious ones, like Calculating Infinity, was a big jump, and I feel like Miss Machine was a really big jump. I feel like our work on Option Paralysis was like us refining Miss Machine,” he says.

“It wasn’t like we were making colossal jumps. This is the first one since Miss Machine where I felt like, Wow, all of us as individuals and collectively are moving into, like, some other phase of our career. I think we’ve all just gotten a lot better as individuals and we’ve already had our fucking growing pains and we’ve already fought our brains out. We went from being kids to adults together. We kind of all realized our strengths and how to leave one another alone and not have ego clashes.

“I think this record is the record where we’re like adults now. People have gotten married or we have serious girlfriends, like, really major shit has gone down in our lives, and it just seemed really…it seemed like less edge-of-our-pants, not knowing if we were gonna pull it together.”

What does it sound like?

“We made a really conscious effort this time to try to do some different stuff. I feel like, as any band that’s put out a bunch of records, we have our patterns, even if our patterns are a little harder to decipher. We’ve made a really deliberate, conscious effort to be like, ‘The first song is gonna start differently than any Dillinger record because every Dillinger record starts with like a train wreck and ‘Aaahhhh’ right away.’

“We want to do it differently this time. Ya know, ‘Have we ever started a song with bass before? No? Well, let’s start a song with bass.’ ‘Have we ever started a song with just drums? No, we haven’t done that? Let’s do that.’ Just anything we can do to push ourselves into uncomfortable territory now because I think that’s necessary because no one else is gonna do it. We have to make effort to be like, ‘This is what we would normally do. Let’s deliberately not do that.’ It’s actually made everything a lot more interesting for us. Those little things make a difference. We push each other creatively.”

Puciato discussed the band’s Party Smasher Inc. imprint label, and said other bands will be released through it.

“Ben and I have been kind of stockpiling some side projects over the last couple of years. Ben has Giraffe Tongue [Orchestra, his band with Mastodon’s Brent Hinds, Jane’s Addiction bassist Eric Avery, and ex-Mars Volta drummer Jon Theodore], and I’m thinking now we might do that on Party Smasher.

“I don’t know if my project with Max Cavalera is gonna come out on that. Then I’ve got another project with this guy Josh [Eutis], who is in Puscifer and does an electronic thing called Telefon Tel Aviv, and that’s called The Black Queen and that’s gonna come out for sure on Party Smasher.

“I think we’re just gonna start unloading now that we have a solid home for the label. We can just be like, ‘If I wanna do a weird avant-garde solo record and make 500 of them, here’s where it’s coming out.’ It’s kind of a nice feeling.”

He spoke at length about his project with Max, which is supposed to be Nailbomb-esque.

“It’s crazy. That thing is just becoming a big snowball of people. Me and Max started hanging out and we wrote really quickly and we were talking about all these old metal records and talking about old hardcore records and punk records and we had a lot of similar reference points.

“We were like, ‘We could make a pretty sick fucking punk, thrash fucking type album.’ Then Dave Elitch [The Mars Volta] who’s a buddy a mine was like, ‘I wanna play drums on this.’ For a minute, Nate Newton from Converge was involved and he just couldn’t do it because he was so involved in so much already.

“Then Troy expressed interest. It was kind of, like, a drunken party night type thing and he was like, ‘I wanna play bass. Can you imagine if all three of us were singing?’ I’m like, ‘Fuck yeah!’ Just like raging at 4 in the morning.

“Then the next day, I texted him and was like, ‘I don’t know how serious any of us were,’ and he was like ‘Dude, I’m totally serious.’ I was like, ‘Fuck. This has now just achieved…like, this has to be awesome or else we’re fucked.’”

He’s right.

“We’re gonna finish the Dillinger record and I think we’re going right into the studio the beginning of January and record this other album and hold it. We can’t put it out the same time as the Dillinger record so we’ll hold it for maybe eight or nine months, and at the end of 2013, we’ll move that thing. It’s really crazy. It’s really surreal. It’s just all fucking good. Life is good.”

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